E193: Escaping the Time Massa’: Fees and the Legacy of Slavery

What if your relationship with money isn’t just about money?

What if your relationship with time, work, rest, safety, and your right to take up space has been shaped by something much older and deeper?

In this deeply personal episode, Tiffany explores a realization that stopped her in her tracks: the feeling of an internal “time master”—a constant ticking clock that says you can rest later.

When you’re financially secure.
When your children are safe.
When you’ve worked enough.
When you’ve earned it.

But what happens when the clock never actually stops?

For Tiffany, this question led directly into the legacy of slavery, intergenerational trauma, labor, and the ways that the value of Black bodies has historically been tied to their capacity to work.

And then the question gets even more uncomfortable:

What if financial freedom alone isn’t enough to make us feel free?

Because you can earn more.
You can build the business.
You can create time freedom.

And still have an internal voice telling you that you haven’t done enough to deserve rest.

This episode is about that voice.

And about what might finally quiet it.

Listen to the episode:

In this episode, Tiffany explores:

  • The “time master” and the internal pressure to constantly produce
  • Why financial safety can become psychologically intertwined with permission to rest
  • The historical relationship between labor, worth, and the bodies of Black people and women
  • How intergenerational and relational trauma can shape our experience of money and safety
  • Why making more money doesn’t automatically create an internal experience of freedom
  • The connection between financial security and attachment, safety, and belonging
  • Why community can create a sense of safety and expansiveness even before financial security arrives
  • How being seen and believed in by other people can help us see possibilities we cannot yet hold for ourselves
  • Why your clinical work can only expand as far as you’re willing to explore inside yourself
  • The importance of having a container where difficult thoughts, fears, grief, and desires can actually come forward
  • What happens when self-protection becomes the very thing limiting your professional and personal growth
  • Why creating a Life First Practice is about much more than increasing your income

Tiffany also shares the story of a therapist in the Lean In. MAKE BANK. Academy who once questioned whether she could really charge premium fees in her rural community—and then watched that possibility become real.

She booked $450 intake sessions.

Clients said yes to $300 weekly sessions.

The money was important.

But what made the transformation possible was something deeper:

Community. Connection. Mattering.

Someone else seeing the possibility in you before you’re fully able to see it yourself.

And maybe that’s the real work.

Not simply getting paid more.

But learning that you are allowed to exist, take up space, breathe, rest, and be present before the money arrives.

Because the ultimate goal of a Life First Fee isn’t just a bigger bank account.

It’s the ability to finally silence the ticking clock.

To sit with your kids without calculating what you should be doing.

To be with your partner without feeling pulled toward the next task.

To spend time with your friends and actually be there.

To stop measuring your worth in hours worked.

To be present for life.

If this episode brought something up for you—if you’re curious about what might be possible when you have the right community and container to explore these questions—email Tiffany at tiffany@leaninmakebank.com with the words “I’m Ready.”

Because getting paid is lovely.

But what’s priceless is getting your life back.

 

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Email Tiffany: tiffany@leaninmakebank.com

More about Tiffany

Tiffany McLain, LMFT is a clinical fee strategist for therapists in private practice. Her mantra is, “Full fees are the new black.” Via her program, The Lean In. MAKE BANK. Academy, she helps therapists ethically earn 30 to 50% more per month while seeing fewer clients by showing them how to think about and directly address fees in a clinically appropriate manner. The Lean In. MAKE BANK. Academy is a program that addresses the underlying money mindset stories that keep therapists broke so they can become THAT therapist who charges premium fees, cash pay. With the LIMB 4-step framework to make BANK, regular coaching calls to help you go to the next level, a phenomenal community of funny and intelligent therapists, be ready to get real raw and real rich.

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